[09:02:14] stoney: #startmeeting POSSE - IRC 1 [09:02:22] stoney: #chair lorip [09:02:27] stoney: #link Agenda http://foss2serve.org/index.php/IRC_Meeting_1 [09:02:34] stoney: #topic Introductions [09:02:41] stoney: Take it away lorip :) [09:02:50] lorip: a meetbot will log the IRC interactions and allow us to refer back to it [09:02:56] MScott: hello everyone [09:02:59] lorip: stoney just posted a link to the agenda [09:03:05] lorip: hi MScott [09:03:26] Deepti1 (~ET_-_User@49.44.51.16) joined the channel [09:03:37] lorip: we will start with introductions - we will do it alphabetically by nick [09:03:59] lorip: please provide your name, institution, location and any FOSS/HFOSS experience you have [09:04:21] lorip: Adrir - would you be willing to start? [09:05:19] Shobha (2f1e7fff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.47.30.127.255) joined the channel [09:05:37] lorip thinking - should I move on? [09:05:40] MScott: I think Adrir is my other machine --- looking at the #a11y channel [09:05:52] stoney: might have some lurkers... maybe just have folks info up their intro if they are going to participate? [09:05:57] stoney: ah :) [09:06:18] lorip: what do you mean stoney? [09:06:21] stoney: #info I'm Stoney Jackson. I'm from Western New England University. I'm one of the POSSE team members [09:06:38] Shobha: Hi o/ [09:06:44] lorip: notice that stoney used the info tag [09:07:27] MScott: I'm MScott --- or Michael Scott --- Lecturer in Computing and Creative App Development at Falmouth University in the UK #info [09:07:39] lorip: #info I'm Lori Postner. I'm from Nassau Community College which is in New York state just outside of New York City. I'm part of the POSSE team. [09:07:40] stoney: awesome! good to meet you MScott [09:07:42] Shobha: I am Shobha Tyagi . I m from north India. I am also posse team members [09:07:53] stoney: good to meet you Shobha [09:08:33] Shobha: Stoney: thanks :) [09:08:55] stoney: Anyone else? [09:09:10] saraR #info Hello, I am Sara Roman, I'm a lecturer in Ethics and Law in CD in Complutense University in Madrid [09:09:15] srpoojara__: myself shivananda poojara from South India working Assistant Professor I am POSSE particpant [09:09:23] stoney: welcome Shobha :) [09:09:35] stoney: good to meet you srpoojara__ [09:10:04] lorip: deepti1 or mselezm? [09:10:04] Deepti1: #info Hello Everyone, I am Deepti Reddy. I am teaching in SIES Graduate School of Technology, University of Mumbai, India. I am new to FOSS/HFOSS. [09:10:12] Shobha: I am assistant professor in computer science and engineering​ from MRIU university [09:10:19] stoney: hi Deepti1 [09:10:52] mselezm: Looking how it works, I'll join Thursday's chat [09:11:05] stoney: good good :) [09:11:15] lorip: mselezm - thanks for letting us know! [09:11:25] mselezm: :) [09:11:28] stoney: So mselezm will be lurking :) [09:12:10] Shobha: I am GNOME Foundation Member. I am great follower of FOSS [09:12:19] lorip: nice to meet everyone - it is very cool to have so many countries represented! [09:12:22] saraR I was also testing but sent a message with the info tag [09:12:38] lorip: our next topic is about IRC [09:12:45] stoney: saraR hmm... that's strange [09:12:53] saraR why ? [09:13:01] stoney: #info Discussion of IRC basic features [09:13:08] lorip: hopefully you have had a chance to complete the IRC activity and this is a chance to try out some of the commands you read about [09:13:26] lorip: IRC commands start with / [09:13:48] stoney: saraR never mind; I think I misunderstood your comment [09:14:19] lorip: some of the more common ones are nick (changes your nickname), away/back (to indicate that your status) and me (which is for performing an action) [09:14:31] You're now known as stoney_ [09:14:34] lorip waving hello [09:14:39] You're now known as stoney [09:14:52] MScott is performing an action [09:15:04] lorip: the command itself will not show up to the irc participants [09:15:12] MScott is now known as MJScott [09:15:23] stoney plays with forward slash commands [09:15:23] lorip is now known as lpostner [09:15:35] srpoojara__: k [09:15:37] lpostner: nick lorip [09:15:46] lpostner: oops - I forgot the slash [09:15:49] stoney: :) [09:15:52] lpostner is now known as lorip [09:16:14] srpoojara__ is now known as shiva [09:16:21] saraR is now known as SaraUCM [09:16:26] stoney: nice all! [09:16:38] lorip: meetbot commands start with a # and control how the log appears - hopefully we will have that working for the next call [09:16:43] shiva is now known as Guest78514 [09:17:03] Shobha is now known as curiousDTU [09:17:05] lorip: any questions so far? [09:17:55] SaraUCM nop [09:18:03] Guest78514: if nick name not available it changed to by default to guest? [09:18:24] lorip: I'm not sure - stoney, do you know? [09:18:28] stoney: probably [09:18:55] lorip: if you want to get someone's attention you can use their nick to ping them [09:19:11] Guest78514: because my nick from srpoojar changed to Guest78514 [09:19:49] stoney: it may be that someone already has that nick [09:19:53] stoney: including yourself... [09:19:54] lorip: I'm also seeing srpoojara as a nick [09:19:56] Guest78514: yup:) [09:20:12] stoney: if you make another connection, it may hold the name from the previous connection [09:20:37] lorip: shall we move on? [09:20:47] Guest78514: yes [09:20:48] curiousDTU: Yes [09:20:52] SaraUCM yes [09:21:08] lorip: great - next topic HFOSS projects [09:21:10] stoney: there are ways to force a release of the nick... but it might be easier for now just to use another similar nick (like add a number) [09:21:17] stoney: #topic HFOSS projects [09:22:00] lorip: as you work through the stage 1 activities you will learn about some HFOSS projects and be asked to think about what project you might want to use in your classes [09:22:24] lorip: in future IRCs we will talk more about them, but are there any general questions now? [09:22:41] curiousDTU: Great [09:22:59] lorip: any thing that has come us thus far as you are working on the stage 1 activities? [09:23:26] MJScott: just waiting on a wiki login :-) [09:23:48] lorip: MJScott - you should have gotten an email about that from Greg Hislop [09:24:12] MJScott: it's probably hit my institution's spam filter then [09:24:27] MJScott: will chase up with them [09:24:37] Guest78514: Yes i got email from Greg Hislo[ [09:24:44] SaraUCM I have the email from Greg but not the other with user/psswd (also checked spam as he says) [09:25:16] lorip: if you haven't gotten the original one, please email greg to let him know [09:25:25] hislopg (~chatzilla@pool-96-245-178-43.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) joined the channel [09:25:34] curiousDTU: lorip: Will we able to build project within 6 weeks [09:25:45] stoney: speak of the devil :) [09:25:45] Deepti1: we should identify new HFOSS project or existing one? [09:25:54] lorip: hi greg - we were just discussing log ins [09:26:02] lorip: several people did not get your original email [09:26:32] lorip: curiousDTU - what do you mean by build a project - are you thinking of creating an open source project or contributing to one? [09:26:57] curiousDTU: Contributing [09:26:58] lorip: deeptil - we encourage people to use an existing one [09:27:44] lorip: curiousDTU - are you asking if your students will be able to build the dev environment in 6 weeks or make a contribution and have it accepted? [09:28:08] Guest78514: As of start to HFOSS good to join existing projects i guess? [09:28:16] hislopg_ (~chatzilla@n2-234-217.dhcp.drexel.edu) joined the channel [09:29:05] lorip: yes - by joining an existing project students can interact with professional from around the world and learn how professional communities work [09:29:30] Guest78514: great [09:29:37] Deepti1: ok [09:29:48] lorip: one of the benefits of using HFOSS in the classroom is to have students interact with the community - it gives them experience outside the classroom [09:29:58] lorip: great questions - what else? [09:30:00] stoney: good questions! [09:30:34] hislopg (~chatzilla@pool-96-245-178-43.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) left IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:30:40] hislopg_ is now known as hislopg [09:31:05] curiousDTU: lorip- we would interact with the students after the workshop know? [09:31:42] Guest78514: This works good we can add in our curriculum [09:31:52] lorip: the interactions really depend upon the class you are using [09:32:15] lorip: where do you see HFOSS fitting into your curriculum? [09:32:49] curiousDTU: We already have a Foss course running in our university. Just Introduction [09:33:09] lorip: what is covered in it? [09:33:25] Guest78514: FOSS lab with Project [09:33:49] curiousDTU: Introduction to open source software and standards [09:34:03] lorip: curiousDTU - are you trying to incorporate more into that class or have a follow up class? [09:34:25] curiousDTU: I can have both [09:34:26] lorip: Guest78514 - what level students? what do you mean by FOSS lab with Project? [09:34:39] lorip: curiousDTU - what level students? [09:34:49] stoney: that's great curiousDTU ! [09:35:05] stoney: sounds like you have some flexibility in your program [09:35:18] curiousDTU: B.Tech First semester students [09:35:40] Guest78514: Free and OPen source software course - under graduates [09:36:03] curiousDTU: Yes we are autonomous university. We can design our own courses [09:36:57] lorip: curiousDTU - that is very cool - since I'm not familiar with what those student might already have it will really depend on a few things [09:37:00] curiousDTU: Depending upon the need [09:37:14] Guest78514: stoney: we have flixibility to add HFOSS in curriculum if you suggest us [09:37:49] lorip: in the US system we find that students can get into an HFOSS project in a 4-year undergraduate course that runs 15 weeks and meets about 3-5 hours a week [09:38:00] lorip: oops - I meant 4th year [09:38:10] stoney: a major part of Stage 2 is to explore different ways of incorporating HFOSS in our curricula; so we'll have more time to explore and develop these ideas! [09:38:19] lorip: but during that time they typically don't have a contribution accepted [09:38:30] lorip: a meant a code contribution [09:38:48] curiousDTU: Yes [09:38:54] lorip: but there are lots of way to contribute that aren't code and we will be discussing that throughout stage 1 and stage 2 [09:39:07] lorip: did that help at all? [09:39:46] lorip: and it also depends upon the complexity of the project and what tools your students already know [09:40:15] Guest78514: curiousDTU: We can also have discussion so that we can include some good stuffs in curricullum :) [09:40:48] Deepti1 (~ET_-_User@49.44.51.16) left IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:40:53] curiousDTU: Very true :) [09:40:59] stoney: oops... lost Deeptl1 [09:41:17] Guest78514: lorip: tools we can put in 3rd year and make aware for them than 4year they can contribute .. [09:41:40] lorip: that sounds like a great plan [09:41:42] Deepti1 (~ET_-_User@49.44.51.16) joined the channel [09:41:51] stoney: yeah Deepti1 has returned! [09:41:52] Deepti1: Depending on the duration and efforts needed for the project, HFOSS can be incorporated as a final year project(1 year) or short term project(1 month). [09:42:16] curiousDTU: Right , first year Introduction third year tools and final year contribution [09:42:27] lorip: as you are working through the stage 1, please be sure to log your activity in the google spreadsheet [09:42:36] Guest78514: I guess it could be one year project:) [09:42:41] stoney: Deepti1 projects and project-based courses are a great place to integrate students with HFOSS projects [09:42:51] lorip: #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Fs5rTu6ltChsIfk3ywk0BfL0YAaKqMDgMAHspiuXM0/edit#gid=0 [09:42:59] Guest78514: stony: true [09:43:08] stoney: :) [09:43:53] lorip: other questions or thoughts? [09:44:02] stoney: (I like the 700% in the first row!) [09:44:15] stoney: (now 800% :) ) [09:44:34] stoney: (we'll work on that :) ) [09:45:19] Guest78514: I had emailed this idea of integrating HFOSS in curriculum to Heidi Ellis, advised to come up with idea to POSSE workshop to discuss [09:46:01] lorip: great! [09:46:08] curiousDTU: +1 [09:46:19] Guest78514: :) [09:46:40] lorip: if there aren't any other questions we can wrap up this IRC [09:46:52] lorip: thanks so much for your time and participation! [09:46:58] Guest78514: Sure [09:46:59] stoney: Yes, thanks all! [09:47:01] SaraUCM Thanks [09:47:02] stoney: Great questions! [09:47:05] lorip: if you have questions, please contact any of us [09:47:13] lorip: we are looking forward to working with all of you!! [09:47:17] stoney: Great comments! [09:47:24] curiousDTU: Thanks all, it was nice meeting you all bye [09:47:34] lorip: bye curiousDTU [09:47:34] Guest78514: great Stoney and lorip thanks much [09:47:40] stoney: I will be posting a transcript to the agenda page [09:47:51] lorip: you are welcome Guest78514 [09:48:11] stoney: sorry... I will be posting a transcript of this meeting to the agenda page [09:48:16] lorip: stoney - do you want to end the pretend meetbot? [09:48:23] stoney: sure :) [09:48:25] stoney: #endmeeting